Friday, May 18, 2012

Sister wives blog

I've been really bad about blogging lately and for that I apologize.  I've been enjoying life to the best of given ability and spending time with my peeps.  Our life is going pretty smoothly these days.

Earlier today I was poking around the web and came across a Sister Wives blog.  From what I can tell at quick glance it's a site for people who wish to bash the Brown's.  Now I have no real comment in support of the Brown's, but I don't feel the need to bash them either.

I'm consistently blown away by how ignorant some people can be.  How we don't care about the divorce rate in our country but we do care about what other consenting adults want to do.

Anywho, I thought I'd share the blog in case anyone was interested.

http://sisterwivesblog.blogspot.com/2012/05/hln-dr-drew-3-wives-24-children-we-all.html#comment-form

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  1. This show is idiotic..the first wife allowed him to marry a 2nd wife cause she did not want to have children...it wasn't a miracle that as soon as she seen another woman give her husband a child she all of a sudden got preg...the 2nd wife wanted to be a career woman and did not want to take care of her children..so with sister wives she has a permanet babysitter..the 3rd wife is pure white trash..she could not make it on her own so its perfect cause she never has to work..and she hasn't. She also lacks common sense..come on!! She is married to a man who has 3 other wives and out of the bue she is jelous. The 4th wife is the trophy wife..his first 3 wives got to old and to chubby and now he can have sex with his 4th wife with the lights on

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    1. Let me correctt you on a few of your statements. Most people get their FACTS together before they make themselves out to be an idiot.
      Wife number one: Meri, is her name....Hasd had issues getting pregnanat from day one. IF you watched the show or read even did a little research you would know this. God bless her . Meri also comes from a Religious belief in Polygamy.

      Wife number two.. her name is Jennelle...If you again watched this show, you would see she LOVES her children, she likes to work outside the home.

      Wife number three..Christine.. also grew up in their religion. Christine is far from white trash ( your words). Believe ut or not , it takes BRAINS and COMMON sense to run a home.

      The fourth wife Robyn.. a trophy wife.. you need glasses... Robyn is very normal looking. Robyn is the least liked of the group of women...most find her passive/aggressive... a true manipulator.

      Most of your comments come across of jealousy.. insecurities. Judge not.......

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    2. You're statements aren't accurate as I know them. According to what I've seen and read about the family.

      As far as the weight of the wives, they were big when Kody married them. They didn't get big. Kody said he likes curvy women. So do I. I find soft, curvy women to be very sexy! Enough said about that! :D

      I'm also offfended by saying the working mother "did not want to take care of her children." I was once a full time federal employee AND mother. I worked TO take care of my child. As a now stay at home wife & mother, your comment offends me. Most mothers and fathers work to take care of their children, not to avoid them. I used to dread leaving my beautiful daughter each morning. I missed her and thought about her all day.

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  2. Well, divorce isn't just rampant in non polyg society. Kody has married two women who are divorcees. Plus, Robyn, Christine, and Janelle's moms are divorced from their biological fathers. So, I don't know why the argument pro polygm always involves the high divorce rate as if one has anything to do with the other. The only thing polyg does is give one man the license to cheat on his legal wife. Most of those men do not support their children, they do not support their wives, they are so busy moving between beds that they do not spend a minute with their children. Now this doesn't just come from the Brown's show: read some of the escape from polyg books or read some of the websites of practicing polygs and you get the picture. It is not about who can live and let live; it's about ending maltreatment of women and children.

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    1. A liscensed to cheat? Taking on a woman for LIFE (and eternity if u believe in that) is far too much responsibility for a man seeking to just "cheat."

      I've read two books on Polygamy & both were about the FLDS. Not all polygamy is religous. So Id to be foolish to assume all polgamy is the same. Right? Plenty of women CHOOSE polygamy freely-without any religous undertones. And there is no abuse present what so ever.

      I've read Prophets Prey & Elissa Walls book.

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  3. These wives are seriously in need of psychiatric counseling, and the narcissistic 'husband' is just a douche. None of these wives are happy, in fact they are soooo miserable that it exudes from their pores like sweat. The 1st wife is a pimp for her husband; bringing in more wives by suggestion. Case in point was last week when wife #1 and Douche husband went to Mexico and wife #1 suggested that some women they met was really 'cute' (hint, hint..wife #5 maybe?) The kids seem to have NO emotional tie to the sperm donor they call "DAD". The wives raise the children, run the household, and each is responsible for paying the bills in their respective households. Douche husband just comes by every 4th night for... whatever. This family has filed multiple bankruptcies and these wives are on welfare and food stamps. How disgusting is this situation? I think much.

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    1. Why do anonymous people come across as if they know it all......? These women are NOT on welfare or food stamps. Not all these women have filed Bankruptcy.
      Get your facts together

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  4. To the commenters above me in this blog post: I'd really like to see a conversation begin about the many flavors of polygamy. So many people are jumping on the "hate polygamy" bandwagon -- and almost every time, they bring up the scary sects which treat women as little more than chattel and the sons as competition.

    I don't think all the monogamous marriages out there are the same. There are abusive husbands, cheating wives...as well as faithful spouses who treat each other with love and respect, and probably even some "marriages of convenience". I'd like to see those who comment here show their education a little and at least recognize the Browns aren't the poster-family for ALL polygamous families.

    As for Mr. Brown and family -- I've only watched portions of episodes here and there as my wife watches (usually while I'm massaging her neck *grin*). But I do recall seeing recently how distressed he was that the families were split apart and not together. That didn't sound like a man who doesn't have time for his children to me. For all of Mr. Brown's faults (of which I do think there are many), that's not one of them.

    I'd just like to see the people talking about these families who have the courage to live their lives in the open show a little respect. Imagine opening your lives to so much public scrutiny, opening yourselves to questions about your sex lives, how you fight, your decisions to have (or not) more children.... And then, when you've imagined doing all of that, imagine people *just like you* criticizing your every move.

    Whether you're against polygamy for religious reasons or because you "just can't see it working", show me and my family the respect YOU expect me to show your monogamous family.

    Anne.

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    1. I agre whole heartedly-LIVE and LET LIVE-if you don't care for the Browns don't watch the dang show.

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  5. Anne honestly don't waste your breath on the above posters; they are the exact same loudmouths that post frequently on the sister wives' blog in question. They could at least try to hide their identity and same old rhetoric, a little bit better. And before any of them say it as they frequently say on that blog if anyone posts a view contrary to their own, no I am not one of the Brown family. I'm not a supporter of the Brown family nor do I think they are necessarily always a good example of a successful poly family but at the same time this vitriol gets incredibly tiresome; Zelda1 in particular you clearly seem to have too much time on your hands; get a hobby or something. I just don't get how polygamy can bother some people so much? Yes they are consenting adults whether you like the lifestyle they have consented to, or not. Yes I have been in a poly situation in the past, and I am in one again and its working very well so I can speak from first hand experience. No I am not a fundamentalist mormon. My husband spends more time with his kids than most monogamous dads yet he still laments that he doesn't get enough time to spend with them, because he cares and always wants to improve.

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  6. Anon 11:49,
    I do have hobbies and a full-time job. You seem to miss the point that we critique the browns because they put themselves out there for critique with the "same old rhetoric" that polyg doesn't hurt anyone. Clearly, they are wrong. They say their relationships are just like monogamy: no they are not. I could go on but won't. You say live and let live and so do I. Good for them but don't try to sell me on a life style choice by fallacies and out right lies and I won't show you the fallacies in your logic…that is my point. It is the same old rhetoric that I am trying to understand: polyg doesn't hurt anyone; we all are better people; we all love being sisterwives because it's about our relationships with each other as much as with him…blah blah.

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  7. Zelda,

    Perhaps you weren't understanding my reference to the high divorce rate in our country vs. a poly marriage. Of course divorce happens in a poly marriage. My point is: many "Christians" stand before family and friends and their GOD and say to each other "til death do us part", then they divorce. Then they do it again, and again, and again. Then someone like Rush Limbaugh opposes and bashes poly marriage (I don't know that for fact, but I'm assuming he would) yet how many times has he been married?? Cheating is almost accepted in Christian circles, oh they say "we turn our heads", "we don't approve", but I don't see them holding picket signs and bashing people who cheat all over the web. I do see some standing in protest of a poly marriage.

    Saying you believe in Live and Let Live means you need to not stand up in protest.

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    1. Sorry jenne I'm an avid rush listener and I don't think he cares.andto the subject that it is hurting people, I do believe that the browns have thiswierd little thing called choice.we telling people that they can out can not be in a poly relationship is the same as telling people they can only buy Chevy cars.

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  8. Amen Jenne. I just wonder why it bothers Zelda et al soooooooooooo much? If they want to perceive their relationships as the same as monogamy then that is their business, if you don't want to enter into polygamy yourself then no-one is forcing anybody.

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  9. Polygamy is detrimental when practiced in a large scale in a society. That is proof enough for me that it does not work and that it shouldn't happen. I have the research paper that was published posted on my blog if anyone cares to look at actual studies.
    I bad-mouth "The Sister Wives" and as a tax payer I feel I have every right to. There are people who do not qualify for unemployment and yet here we have these "Sister Wives" collecting welfare and the like. They might not anymore but I assure you that they have for the majority of their polygamous lives. Four wives, only one that works, 17 children, you do the math. They've declared bankruptcy and still leave beyond their means. The polygamous lifestyle, as practiced, is not financially sustainable (generally speaking, as I'm sure there are exceptions). So yep, I bad-mouth them.

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    1. Britt,

      Do you have proof about them being on welfare? I have heard the rumors, but when I tried to find the actual proof, I couldn't find it. You said "and I assure you", so it sounds like you have proof. IF they are indeed on welfare, or were on welfare, I don't think that's right. But I don't think it's right for non poly people to abuse the system either. Abusing our welfare system really has nothing to do with being poly. Some people are just going to do it regardless.

      I think whether or not a polygamous lifestyle is financially sustainable depends on each family. I practice a polygamous lifestyle, have never been on public assistance, we do not live beyond our means, we support ourselves including paying $451.00 a month so I can have health insurance and not mooch off the system. My husband's insurance lets him cover one wife, not both of us and I am an independent IT consultant. Therefore I have to carry my own health insurance, yet his co-workers with 8 kids pays the same amount as he does. How fair is that? Just the way it is though.

      I think the Browns give other poly families a bad name. Not everyone does it for religious reasons, not all husbands are like Kody Brown. I can assure you mine is nothing like Kody Brown. I'd go nuts.

      Do you watch the show? If so, why?

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    2. Proof: http://www.scribd.com/doc/57590942/Detailed-Assets-Debts-in-the-Bankruptcy-Filing-of-Sister-Wives-Star-Christine-Allred-Brown-3-2010 on page 23 of 34. Food stamps for Christine Brown.
      I do agree with you! If your family is self-sufficient then, by all means, no complaints here! I do not think all polygamous families are the same in the least.
      I am specifically speaking of "The Sister Wives." Yes, I do watch the show and just because I do not condone what they do does not mean I should not watch. I am naturally a curious person and I do like to see and get to know things that I am not personally familiar with. Specifically, I am intrigued with how they deal with certain emotions, etc.
      You are correct, I also agree that any one abusing the system is just as bad.
      I am specifically speaking of "The Sister Wives." And also, the fact that polygamy, when practiced in large as a society, is not sustainable. It makes sense as to why it isn't but that has nothing to do with this so I apologize for bringing that up. I do find it interesting though.
      And about the amount of children and benefits etc., that brings up a whole other can of worms. Some think that has to do with population control and people having more children than they can afford, but then you run into ethical arguments and such, so I would rather not get into that. I do feel that the Browns in particular, should have maybe taken their finances into account when deciding on having that many children.

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    3. I have gone and read these documents..PLEASE show me where they were finalized and certified.

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    4. Why would they need to be finalized or certified? They are filled out BY the person they are about. If you don't believe Christine knows how much she was getting in food stamps......!?

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  10. I am the 'anonymous' above again. No-one is saying polygamy should be practiced by everyone in a society; polygamy being a religious principle with all men having to have three wives plus in order to achieve salvation simply doesn't work; I agree. But MOST polygamy if you're looking at the worldwide model; is practiced by a tiny percentage of people in any given society. Even in Saudi Arabia the percentage is less than 10% according to some figures. In Pakistan it is 2%.

    Some very successful societies are polygamous (i.e. Hong Kong) and what is the difference between committed polygamy/polyamory and partners/spouses cheating on each other and often leading a double life-personally I think the latter is less favourable. A recent case in the UK saw a man killing himself because he was leading a double life having two families for over 25 years. Such situations are not uncommon.

    Many regular, monogamous LDS families have 12+ children, along with those of other faiths who encourage having big broods, just look at the Duggars. On the other hand most polygamous families I know of only have at most, six children, some have none. Many people enter into polygamy because they don't want to have children; or if they have kids already don't want more, so in the case of a man this can be he marries women who have kids already, and the same goes for a subsequent wife or partner entering into an arrangement.

    I also have come across many monogamous couples who are welfare fraudsters, cooking the books or who claim bankruptcy and then change their name. I have come across a couple of poly-arrangment families that are claiming welfare but in comparison to the number of poly families I know altogether it is a teeny minority, even when you take percentages into consideration-at least where I live it is the monogamous community who have a big issue with welfare and other types of fraud. My husband works very hard in his own business and we don't claim anything in terms of welfare except non means-tested welfare that is given to everyone over here regardless of income and circumstances because its a socialist system (we're in Europe). My husband pays his taxes and contributions like everyone else. Like most people these days my husband does have some debts but bankruptcy would never be an option for him, he just wouldn't go there ethically and would feel deeply ashamed for one, and for two his work is in a financially-related sector and he would lose his licence to work if he were to ever go bankrupt or claim any other type of insolvency.

    I'm finding this whole 'ALL poly families are committing welfare fraud/ going bankrupt' spiel rather tiresome because that shoe certainly doesn't fit any poly family I know personally.

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    1. It's refreshing to see someone say "Hey, not all poly families are the same."
      I think we as logical adults we can look at something and go..."you know that's not for me, but if that works for you, that's great."

      Thanks for posting again.

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    2. I never said anyone abusing the system is good. I don't know if you were directing this at me but I attacked The Sister Wives specifically. I have the same problems with the Duggars, as far as having that many children.
      Also, polygamy was banned in Hong Kong many years ago, I believe. I need actual studies with documented research in order to believe that. Just how I am I guess.

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    3. Maybe marrying more than one wife in a legal ceremony was banned in HK a long time ago, but de facto polygamy and polyamory is still very much part of the culture there.

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  11. I tried to publish a comment on the sister wives blog (one with the blue header), but they keep deleating my comments. They just want to hear from bitter ,nasty, angry people who agree with everything they post.

    They should stop watching the sister wives program, reading their book, and it will all go away in its own good time. These folks need to get a life and start living it, instead of picking apart other people.

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    1. I've had comments deleted from there too. I think it's mostly because once they reach their limit, anyone past the 200th comment mark gets filtered out.

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    2. They definitely censor!

      http://lisalovestowrite.blogspot.com/2012/11/censorship-on-httpsisterwivesblogblogsp.html

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  12. Anonymous: I happen to agree with you on this point. It does seem there are some pretty bitter people. Why watch a show you hate? Makes no sense to me.

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    1. The same could be said for reading a blog that you don't like. So this argument doesn't really make sense to me.

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  13. I think they should have had their ducks in a row before going on TV. They have a lot of dark secrets, that can and have been uncovered. I wonder if they think it was all worth it, to expose themselves like this? How much money are they making? It's probabaly more money then they have made in their lives, so maybe with all their mouths to feed it's worth it to them. Kody has been trying for ages to get famous! HE did an interview with the BBC years before TLC starting filming, Christine also was on a show for CBS about poloygamy, so they have been trying to make it in Hollywood for a very long time.

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  14. I have watched a lot of the sister wives programs not out of interest for their lifestyle out of sheer sadness. I was someone that was bullied by Janelle the 3rd wife, I went to high school with Janelle, lived in the same neighborhood and if you were not of the "Main-stream" Mormon faith she would have nothing to do with you as you were different and somehow less then her by her standards. I stand all amazed I watched one program last night of her saying she doesn't care what people say or blog about her just do it to her face. I would love to tell her to her face of my high school memories, tears, and fears simply because I didn't fit in with her and her click of main-stream Mormons. Not one of the Browns are thinking of the long, long, long term effects the children they love soooo. much are going to suffer. Janelle I have stayed the same person you shamed for not living the "main-stream" Mormon lifestyle. How could you have been so mean then and want the world to accept you now. People who live in glass houses should never throw stones. You threw them at 17 and continue to do so at 45. No-one cares who, what, when, or how you do what you do. Apologize and take responsibility for who and what you were in the past and how completely unaccepting and intolerant of those lives you made miserable when you were "main-stream". Simply because if you lived in a family not of the faith you did not trick or treat at our homes. Janelle you and I both know this is true. I also came from a great loving family that did their very best to ease my pain of not fitting in from people like you. I wanted my parents to change our religion so I could be free from persecuting people like you back then. If you think for 1 minute **1 OR MORE OF THOSE CHILDREN YOU ADORE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ADVERSELY AFFECTED FOREVER IN SOME WAY YOU ARE WRONG** You Janelle yourself ADVERSELY affected my life when you were on the "Main-Stream Mormon kick you pitched lived and made those of not believe we were going to hell.. I would give anything to speak with you to your face if I only knew how.. Not out of anger I just believe you really don't remember the person you were then..

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